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* Goal [1]
* Members [2]
* Mailing List [3]
* Addressing [4]
* DNS [5]
* General discussion [6]
* Comments [7]
* Archive of old WGRoutingAddressing page [8]
GOAL
To revisit the Routing, Addressing and DNS policies with a view to
adding to, refining them, or just getting them implemented.
MEMBERS
We start again so join or rejoin. (The old members list is archived
below)
GlennMcKechnie [9]
NodeGES [10]
DanFlett [11]
NodeGMR [12]
iViLe
NodeFUT [13]
Exemplar
NodeFUU [14]
MAILING LIST
A new one is required.
ADDRESSING
Currently we are handling this via the node database by handing out
/28 addresses, which is a block of 16 numbers.
Do we ...
* Continue as is
* Incorporate an online ipcalc tool (with instructions) to assist in
selecting or rearranging allocated subnets
* Modify the database to provide a choice of ...
* p2p subnets /30 - 2 hosts
* AP subnets /28 - 14 hosts, /27 - 30 hosts
* and explain why
* Modifications would be aimed at leaving existing allocations as
is?
Whatever happened to the 172.x.x.x for routers? RIP?
DNS
Nodes are starting to run DNS [15] servers, what's our fqdn?
So far we've had, or have...
* nodexxx.mw.wifi
* nodexxx.mwn
* xxx.wireless.org.au
* xxx.mwnode.com
* and for more, see DNSConvention [16]
For various DNS [17] servers -- DJBDNS - BIND9 - ...
*Provide (via the wiki or plain text files?) generic DNS tables along
with appropriate instructions
How far do we go with DNS?
If we NS everything then perhaps we use...
* nodexxx.whatever for a nodes AccessPoint [18] (AP)
* dhcpxxx.whatever for the APs CLIENTS
* YYYxxx.whatever for PointToPoint [19] links
Status of ns.melbourne.org.au?
GENERAL DISCUSSION
Reassess Quagga [20] (zebra)
It's currently working well in small clusters but appears to be
failing when linking different regions.
* Is it our area allocations (unlikely)?
* implementation of them (probably)?
* or our ad-hoc method of creating config files?
Do we...
* Supply generic configurations or practical examples for ospf.conf,
zebra.conf, etc files. (These must include relevant comments to
shorten the learning curve!)
* Handball it to (work with) the coders to incoporate this into the
IP allocation process generate a base config.
* or maybe as a seperate form so the process can be revisited.
* Input interfaces, IPaddress, netblock - output suitable config.
* also output link (yet to be created) to wiki notes, hints and tips
(supplied by MelbWireless [21] peoples experience on this network).
Assess BGP
Assess Frottle
*Do we need it?
*Is it more suitable for specific types of nodes
* GHO
* ILE
Centralize linking to all wiki routing based material
Add appropriate subnet division examples to wiki.
COMMENTS
ARCHIVE OF OLD WGROUTINGADDRESSING PAGE
Should we push all this stuff to the bottom of this page and start a
new version of this page here? --DanFlett 2005/02/09
Yes -- done! -- GlennMcKechnie [22]
Goal
To co-ordinate the Network Design Group.
Members
Jason Brice
Dwayne
Adrian Close
Peter Rogers
Matt Boyd
NodeBCG [23]
BrendanHiley [24]
NodeDIH [25]
NodeEAE [26]
Andrew Harcourt
NodeCHI [27]
TonyLangdon [28]
NodeBCJ [29]
Lunn [30]
NodeDFC [31]
RogerVenning [32]
NodeCIA [33]
DavidArnold [34]
NodeAAG [35]
TristanGulyas [36]
NodeFSA [37]
Darius [38]
NodeFFB [39]
TimshelKnoll [40]
NodeDDE [41]
AndrewGriffiths [42]
Julien Goodwin
NodeGSO [43]
NodeHUH [44]
GlennMcKechnie [45]
NodeGES [46]
DanFlett [47]
NodeGMR [48]
Mailing List
WGrouting@wireless.org.au [49]
Subscribe [50]
Forget this mailing list address. A two months subscription returns
130+ A grade spam messages and not a useful post in sight.
Time for a change of list address.
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Task List
ProblemStatement [51] and Layer2Assumptions [52].
* Document current thinking on address allocation [53]
* Produce a valid OSPF architecture [54] for the initial core
network NOW, recognising that (a) the initial nodes will form the
backbone / Area 0, and (b) we can afford to re-number / re-configure
them while (c) non-area 0 nodes only come later - so we don't need to
know how to set them up yet
* Get working implementation including (a) ConfigsZebraOspfd [55] ,
(b) gated configs? and (c) instructions on how to set this up from a
default RedHat [56] & Debian [57] installs (& *BSD if anyone on this
group runs it).
* Scope IP address allocation system requirements [58] and implement
on-line.
* (These next two follow on from this but are not necessarily core
group activities - see RouterNodeSetup [59])
* ISOise a working RouterNodeSetup [60] so that it will run/boot off
CDROM being able also to boot of floppy and storing /etc /var and so
forth on the floppy disk. (support of hard disks?)
* Produce a Debian [61] )" title=";)" />
(RogerVenning [68]: send me an email and we'll talk about it)
I think we really need to organize a few meetings and/or
monthy/bi-monthly meetings where people actually turn up to learn
about Zebra, how OSPF is going to be implemented, discuss IPv6 (which
is very very kool), and other things as they pop up. --BrendanHiley
Sounds like a great idea Brendan. Another possibility, now that the
meetings are quite large, is to find a venue where several things can
happen at once. But I spose thats something WGMeetings can work on...
--JamesHealy
Can someone please think of a more suitable "Goal" for this group?
"To co-ordinate the Network Design Group" gives no useful
information... --TysonClugg
* How about to create a cross platform no brainer install routing
protocol with automatic link discovery and route optimisation. nothing
difficult or anything --Drew [69]
I will be giving a brief summary at the July 2002 meeting [70] of the
Aarnet IPv6 workshop which I attended on 24-25 June 2002. I will make
myself available for further assistance to this working group for any
IPv6 related issues. --TysonClugg
Links:
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[1] http://melbournewireless.org.au/#goal
[2] http://melbournewireless.org.au/#members
[3] http://melbournewireless.org.au/#mailing_list
[4] http://melbournewireless.org.au/#addressing
[5] http://melbournewireless.org.au/#dns
[6] http://melbournewireless.org.au/#general_discussion
[7] http://melbournewireless.org.au/#comments
[8]
http://melbournewireless.org.au/#archive_of_old_wgroutingaddressing_page
[9] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?GlennMcKechnie
[10] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeGES
[11] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?DanFlett
[12] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeGMR
[13] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeFUT
[14] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeFUU
[15] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?DomainNameSystem
[16] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?DNSConvention
[17] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?DomainNameSystem
[18] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?AccessPoint
[19] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?PointToPoint
[20] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?Quagga
[21] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?MelbWireless
[22] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?GlennMcKechnie
[23] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeBCG
[24] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?BrendanHiley
[25] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeDIH
[26] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeEAE
[27] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeCHI
[28] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?TonyLangdon
[29] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeBCJ
[30] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?Jeremy
[31] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeDFC
[32] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?RogerVenning
[33] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeCIA
[34] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?DavidArnold
[35] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeAAG
[36] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?TristanGulyas
[37] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeFSA
[38] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?Darius
[39] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeFFB
[40] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?TimshelKnoll
[41] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeDDE
[42] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?AndrewGriffiths
[43] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeGSO
[44] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeHUH
[45] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?GlennMcKechnie
[46] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeGES
[47] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?DanFlett
[48] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?NodeGMR
[49] mailto:WGrouting@wireless.org.au
[50] mailto:Majordomo@wireless.org.au?body=subscribe%20wgrouting
[51] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?ProblemStatement
[52] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?Layer2Assumptions
[53] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?AddressAllocation
[54] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?OSPFArchitecture
[55] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?ConfigsZebraOspfd
[56] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?RedHat
[57] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?Debian
[58] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?IPAllocation
[59] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?RouterNodeSetup
[60] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?RouterNodeSetup
[61] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?Debian
[62] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?RedHat
[63] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?DNSConvention
[64] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?IPv6
[65] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?IPv6
[66] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?6BONE
[67] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?RogerVenning
[68] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?RogerVenning
[69] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?Drew
[70] http://melbournewireless.org.au/?Meeting20020712
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